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bduddy #Diana# 7/14/2018 4:16 AM
there's no "too rapid". Just go with it.
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@Eden ■■■■■■■ Here. A few points of information to consider. First: Many tulpas initially show some semblance of 'sentience' or 'independence' to a mild extent. This, particularly in people who have not made any tulpas before, is typically due to expectation and projection of that expectation rather than genuine independence early in development. The brain does not learn new information or develop autonomous behavior quite so quickly, after all - this has been tested numerous times, as you can search for and verify yourself fairly easily.
4:52 AM
Second: As Ilnezar mentioned, your tulpa doesn't have any particular senses that you don't have. The brain receives input and processes it directly outside of conscious awareness (without using drugs) - so any perception you receive is accessible by her, and vice versa (though this perception will be filtered through your own perception, of course). The extension of this is that "wandering around the house" isn't going to, for example, extend perception around walls that you cannot see behind. It may certainly be the case where your memory is used to fill in the gaps in direct perception, however.
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Third: Imposition is controlled hallucination - having a tulpa is not required for it, nor does it even necessarily make it easier. I'm not certain why the term was co-opted into the tulpa community, but it doesn't actually matter too much in terms of the practical point - which is that one can impose before or after making a tulpa, and developing that capability doesn't speak in any way to the development of the tulpa itself at all.
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Fourth: Back to the topic of development, there is an important question that you should answer for yourself to figure out how to proceed. What is your goal in making a 'tulpa'? Are you looking for a partner that is functionally equal to you? Do you want a character and a kind of 'playmate' to have pretend adventures with? Do you have a tulpa to be special? There isn't any particularly wrong answer, but being clear about what you are actually making and not equivocating between these different goals and types of 'tulpas' that people have is extremely important. Whatever the case, I would urge you to make sure that you are honest about your goals and what you are referring to as a 'tulpa' so that we can develop our collective information more effectively.
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 4:53 AM
Wow... How do you know that I'm online?
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I didn't.
4:53 AM
Hah.
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 4:55 AM
Thanks for the info 😁
4:55 AM
And may I ask a question?
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 4:57 AM
How long do you guys spend times with your Tulpa?
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I mean, how often?
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 4:57 AM
My host and I try to spend as much time as we can together throughout the day; at least as of late... we were really bad for quite a bit with that, not very often just hanging out
4:58 AM
It is really up to you and your headmate, I dunno... ask Winter~
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Ah. At the point that Skye and I are at, it doesn't particularly matter. We both have friends that we spend time with in real life, and both have different activities that we enjoy. I am the only one who speaks here, for instance - as I wanted to have some reasonable social contact. By contrast, Skye is the only one who works and is the one who typically goes shopping.
4:59 AM
We don't particularly interact with each other frequently or without reason to at this point.
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 5:02 AM
Ooo...
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 5:14 AM
I still don't get how you can share a head and body but hardly talk or be in contact
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aye. seems backwards to me
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We are in contact.
5:35 AM
And we do talk when it is relevant.
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It simply isn't relevant or particularly necessary most of the time at this point, as we know each other well enough to generally understand what the other would prefer (though we of course ask if we don't know) in terms of a situation.
5:35 AM
We act in the best interest of ourselves and the other wherever possible.
5:36 AM
In general, we simply don't talk as frequently because there isn't a need to - think of it as being a roommate with somebody else for years. You may not talk frequently, but you generally understand the others' intentions, preferences, living styles, etc.
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 6:20 AM
It was the same with me and Luna but recently we started to spend more time with each other again. I feel we grew apart from each other for years despite the fact we don't really need to talk to understand each other and now we try to make it up.
6:25 AM
Me and my host didn't talk to each other much for the last year he was around, due to our poor relationship. We'd communicate to switch but that was about it; we just did stuff independently other than that.
6:26 AM
Well, we don't need to communicate to switch.
6:32 AM
🤔 Wouldn't just randomly switching in be kind of rude
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We have been speaking more recently simply due to my being more active.
6:33 AM
But, it certainly isn't anything close to daily interaction.
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 6:33 AM
We don't feel it like that. It feels natural for us.
6:34 AM
Luna also is more active recently. She was mostly dormant for a year or so. And now she seems to be stronger than Ysera.
6:36 AM
Interesting
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I don't particularly ask Skye when I switch. I simply choose a time when it won't be particularly inconvenient, or when it is necessary.
6:45 AM
Or, of course, we agree on a time in advance.
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:39 AM
I’m trying to active force, I’m imagining me and my Tulpa in our wonderland but I can’t concentrate for long periods of time. I’ve gone 10 minutes, and even in that I’ve had other thoughts come into my head breaking the force. Can anybody suggest what to do?
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:42 AM
Try to listen to binaural beats, it will help you to focus longer
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:43 AM
Alright! Thanks
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:43 AM
Anytime 😉
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:43 AM
Is it confirmed somehow or just your anegdotal experience?
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:44 AM
Who? Me?
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:46 AM
Also, active forcing is just focusing solely (more or less) on your tulpa. You don't have to spend time in wonderland to actively force. You can also just talk to them, hug them etc.
9:46 AM
Yes, I was asking about those binaural beats
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:46 AM
Oh... Ok
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:47 AM
I still find it hard to focus on her, I get lots of different things suddenly pop in my head while focusing on her which makes me distract myself. (Memories etc).
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:47 AM
Well, it works for me... But i don't know if everyone feels the same
9:48 AM
Well, don't try too hard, just relax
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:48 AM
In my opinion... you don't have to try hard. Just fantasize about your tulpa
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:49 AM
Yeah, take me for example 😁
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:49 AM
I’ll try to do that
9:50 AM
In time you might feel the tulpa acts for themself
9:50 AM
Yeah
9:51 AM
I just find it hard to focus on hr
9:51 AM
Her*
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:52 AM
Just think and fantasize about your Tulpa, talk to him/er often
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:52 AM
Imo, forcing and whole tulpamancy are for people. It should feel like pleasant activity not something you force yourself to do (the term forcing is quite unfortunate)
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:53 AM
Yeah you're right
9:53 AM
By forcing, it doesn't mean literally
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:53 AM
Yeah I know that.
9:53 AM
I’m not forcing myself to do it, I just can’t focus on it for long periods of time.
9:54 AM
Would it work if I did 10 minutes for x times a day?
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Because that’s easier and more relaxing for me to do then doing 60 minutes once a day
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:54 AM
Yeah it will work 😁
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:54 AM
It could be fine I guess
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:54 AM
Usually people take one or two weeks to create their Tulpa
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:55 AM
I can focus more at night and it’s more relaxing then.
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You can simply attempt to keep them in mind as a presence accompanying you throughout your day - it may not be quite as effective as focused interaction, but it will be better than nothing.
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:55 AM
I was forcing only at night and morning when Luna wasn't vocal yet
9:56 AM
But it took us only 3 days to achieve it.
9:56 AM
@SkyeNet I do that already. She’s been in my head since I created her.
9:57 AM
Damn 3 days is fast
9:57 AM
For a first tulpa it seems to be quite fast.
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:57 AM
Yeah you're right
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:57 AM
But some people hear their tulpas after a few hours afaik
9:57 AM
O_O
9:58 AM
Jeez
9:58 AM
How long have you had your Tulpa for?
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:58 AM
Who? Me?
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:58 AM
Luna will be 6 yo in November
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No, Mon
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Oh damn
9:58 AM
Ysera will be 2 yo in September
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:58 AM
Wow... That's a very long time
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:58 AM
everyone here is experienced
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:58 AM
Well not me
9:59 AM
Rachel is still 2 days old 😅
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Deleted User 7/14/2018 9:59 AM
I relate
9:59 AM
Is it your first Tulpa?
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 9:59 AM
Yes
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Oo good luck
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 10:00 AM
Yeah man thx 😁
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Is she already vocal?
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 10:00 AM
Yes... 😂
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If she is I’ll be shocked
10:00 AM
Tf
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Eden ■■■■■■■ 7/14/2018 10:00 AM
And she already wandering around at her own will tho
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I would want to be sure to point out that "having a tulpa" means different things based on the stage at which one considers a tulpa to reasonably "exist".
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What do you mean by "wandering around"?
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And that, of course, learned information/behaviors do take quite some time to be established to any strong degree in the brain.
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